Mozilla Messaging

So work on Thunderbird 3 is underway. Mozilla Messaging is a project to develop the next generation of Thunderbird and to integrate it with calendaring. This is good news. I have begun to really like Thunderbird 2, and have got to a point where I use it more than mutt.

Calendaring will be based on Mozilla Lightning, a plug-in version of Sunbird for Thunderbird. I am not really a fan of big applications. I would prefer that my MUA does email, and a separate application handles calendaring, as is the case today with Thunderbird/Sunbird. On the other hand, the masses seem to love bloatware these days.

There are probably benefits of having an integrated email/calendaring solution as well. Thunderbird provides a contact list (via the addressbook), and this information is used by the calendaring component as well (for meetings, for instance). I’ll try to keep an open mind about this, and I might even install Lightning again, just to see if I can get comfortable with the idea of my toaster being able to launch SCUD missiles.

It seems they are going to improve searches as well. That would be a good thing, since searching in Thunderbird currently er.. leaves a lot to be desired (although there are a few extensions that might help you out). While they’re at it, they should do some work on the contact list component as well, which I am not too fond of.

I hope that Thunderbird now gets the attention it deserves beside Firefox. It has always felt as Thunderbird development hasn’t been prioritized as much as the browser development. This is not fair, since Thunderbird also has a large user base. Also, we need a good alternative to the crap that the Gnome and KDE projects want to force upon us, otherwise those desktops will enslave us all one day.

Interesting Thunderbird dialog

Today when I quit Thunderbird the following dialog popped out of nowhere:

I’m not sure that one came from. Probably some remnant of the old Netscape code base. The superior looking dialog does hint of a different era. (Yes, dialogs used to look this good once upon a time.) But Communicator? The last time I heard Netscape Communicator mentioned was… er… 1978, if memory serves me right.

The conspiracy theorist in me is hard at work. Today is Valentine’s Day. Is this a Valentine’s Day egg? Is it a sign, an omen of things to come? Doesn’t the “future versions of Communicator” have a tone of fatalism to it? Perhaps it is my destiny to bring back Communicator to its former glory..

*sigh* I wish I were a Ron Paul supporter. I’m sure I could think of a colorful way to relate this dialog to rigged vote counts..

Trying Mozilla Thunderbird and Sunbird

After having installed Firefox 3 beta 2, I thought I might as well give Thunderbird and Sunbird a go as well. A while ago I posted about Icedove, which is Debian’s Thunderbird package, complete with an ugly name. This time I wanted to grab the package directly from Mozilla instead.

I grabbed Thunderbird here and Sunbird here. If you want Sunbird to run as an extension to Thunderbird, you can get Mozilla Lightning from here. I am personally allergic to big applications that do too many things, so I prefer keeping Sunbird separate.

Thunderbird 2

Thunderbird is a mail client, just in case you didn’t know that already. I spent a few frustrating minutes with it a while ago, only to go back to the client I know and love: mutt. This time I’ve decided to be a bit more patient and really try to use Thunderbird for a while.

Quick instructions if you want to set it up:

First download the package. Then extract it to your preferred location. I chose /opt, where I keep large packages that come with everything in its own directory structure. As root,

# cd /opt
# tar zxf thunderbird-2.0.0.9.tar.gz


Next, create a symlink so that you can start the program by just typing ‘thunderbird’ instead of the full path.

# ln -s /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird


If you use SCIM (as I do), you thunderbird will segfault if you try to launch it. The solution is to disable SCIM for thunderbird. Edit /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird and add the following:

export GTK_IM_MODULE=scim_bridge


Make sure you add this *before* the thunderbird binary is launched. I added it right below that looks like this: # set -x (it should be around line 90).

Now you are ready to start thunderbird. Launch it with ‘thunderbird’. If you use Gmail, Thunderbird can set up Gmail with POP access for you. You can also use Thunderbird to access Gmail via IMAP, but then you have to set it up yourself.

Sunbird

Sunbird is Mozilla’s stand-alone calendar application. Gettting it up and running is very similar to Thunderbird.

First download the package. To install it (as above, I installed it to /opt), become root and:

# cd /opt
# tar zxf sunbird-0.7.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz


Create a symlimk:

# ln -s /opt/sunbird/sunbird /usr/local/bin


Sunbird suffers from the same SCIM problem as Thunderbird, so again, edit /opt/sunbird/sunbird using your favorite vi clone, go to line 90 or so, find the line that contains:

# set -x

This should be line 92 or something like that. Open up a new line under it and add:

export GTK_IM_MODULE=scim-bridge


Save and close your text editor. Now sunbird should be ready to use. Start it with 'sunbird'.

Conclusion

Thunderbird feels somewhat less annoying to work with this time around. Maybe I'm getting too old and dumb for mutt? Anyways, mutt is not going anywhere. I don't trust any MUA enough to replace mutt. But, that being said, I will use Thunderbird for a month or so. So many people have told me so much about how good Thunderbird is, so I feel that at least I have to get to know it.

I noticed that Thunderbird can also be used to aggregate RSS. I'm going to try that out as well. Right now I use liferea and raggle. I don't care much for liferea really, but raggle is brilliant. I'll try out Thunderbird on a few blogs and news sites, just to see how well it works. If, by any chance, it Thunderbird turns out to be useful, it would be really nice if it could be good enough at handling RSS feeds that I can finally ditch liferea.

I haven't really used a calendaring app much. I've played around with Evolution, Kontact/Korganizer, Zimbra, eGroupware, and maybe one or two others. The idea of calendars is probably a good one, but I'm hopeless at organizing myself. This time, I'm really going to try to use Sunbird, at least for a while. Who knows, maybe I will even find it useful..

I hope that it will be possible to use these two applications with SCIM soon, because I would need to at least be able to write Japanese e-mails. It's a little odd that Firefox works fine with SCIM, but not Thunderbird and Sunbird.